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by MikeB
Wed Oct 20, 2021 4:17 am
Forum: Stirling and "Hot Air" Engine Forum
Topic: Stirling Engine Thermodynamics
Replies: 251
Views: 103642

Re: Stirling Engine Thermodynamics

Far from being a curiosity, in my solar engine, the water vapor condenses in the power cylinder and will slow it down and then stop it. Have you tried using silica gel (or other dessicant) to dry your air? It doesn't need to be pressurised to do this, you just need a decent seal to ensure that the ...
by MikeB
Mon Oct 18, 2021 5:22 am
Forum: Stirling and "Hot Air" Engine Forum
Topic: Stirling Engine Thermodynamics
Replies: 251
Views: 103642

Re: Stirling Engine Thermodynamics

If it helps, bear in mind that some commercial Stirlings use Hydrogen or Helium as the working gas, so no mixture or water vapour effects. As far as I know, these are more efficient, but don't work substantially differently from air-based engines.
by MikeB
Fri Oct 15, 2021 8:46 am
Forum: Stirling and "Hot Air" Engine Forum
Topic: Stirling Engine Thermodynamics
Replies: 251
Views: 103642

Re: Stirling Engine Thermodynamics

Tom, I see you mention "molecular attraction" again - I'm not aware that any common gas has this property; indeed I was under the impression that a truly un-constrained gas would expand to fill whatever container it is in, regardless of temperature and pressure. Maybe I'm misunderstanding ...
by MikeB
Wed Oct 13, 2021 8:16 am
Forum: Stirling and "Hot Air" Engine Forum
Topic: Stirling Engine Thermodynamics
Replies: 251
Views: 103642

Re: Stirling Engine Thermodynamics

"Why do these various engines have heavy weights on the diaphragm "pistons"?" I suspect the main reason is that the engine is at atmospheric pressure inside, at rest. Once the engine has been 'fired up' the internal pressure will rise substantially. For a diaphragm-based engine i...
by MikeB
Tue Oct 12, 2021 5:05 am
Forum: Stirling and "Hot Air" Engine Forum
Topic: Stirling Engine Thermodynamics
Replies: 251
Views: 103642

Re: Stirling Engine Thermodynamics

I quite agree with Tom: the mass of a piston is directly _ counter _ to the ideal operation of _ any _ engine - a massless piston is always going to be better overall than a heavy one.
by MikeB
Thu Oct 07, 2021 9:10 am
Forum: Stirling and "Hot Air" Engine Forum
Topic: Programmatic control of Stirling Engines
Replies: 30
Views: 18683

Re: Programmatic control of Stirling Engines

To be positive for once - you don't need to measure temperature - you have a known (though not entirely fixed) volume of gas, so if you are able to measure the pressure then you can calculate the temperature from that. Whether pressure sensors are significantly faster than temperature sensors I have...
by MikeB
Tue Oct 05, 2021 4:50 am
Forum: Stirling and "Hot Air" Engine Forum
Topic: Programmatic control of Stirling Engines
Replies: 30
Views: 18683

Re: Programmatic control of Stirling Engines

That video of adiabatic bounce is quite a clever demonstration, but I have to point out: As you note, no REAL work is done - in our nice, perfect frictionless theoretical world, the 'piston' will continue to oscillate perpetually. But without doing any work, which is the fundamental point of any eng...
by MikeB
Wed Sep 29, 2021 9:12 am
Forum: Stirling and "Hot Air" Engine Forum
Topic: Programmatic control of Stirling Engines
Replies: 30
Views: 18683

Re: Programmatic control of Stirling Engines

Water is not energy, only a carrier of gravitational energy. The bottom video shows that that particular water wheel is rather inefficient since much of the water is being thrown clear. My problem with the experiment you describe above is that heat transfer is happening in three phases, not one: Fla...
by MikeB
Tue Sep 28, 2021 12:23 am
Forum: Stirling and "Hot Air" Engine Forum
Topic: Have you seen the dual-power stroke mod Stirling made to 1816 engine?
Replies: 11
Views: 3343

Re: Have you seen the dual-power stroke mod Stirling made to 1816 engine?

If you want to know more about how that works, look up "Parallel Motion" which was used on steam engines long before Stirling came along.
by MikeB
Mon Sep 27, 2021 5:35 am
Forum: Stirling and "Hot Air" Engine Forum
Topic: Have you seen the dual-power stroke mod Stirling made to 1816 engine?
Replies: 11
Views: 3343

Re: Have you seen the dual-power stroke mod Stirling made to 1816 engine?

Gary, sealing is actually one of the advantages of using a double-acting power piston - any leakage past the piston itself goes into the other half of the engine, rather than being vented, and then presumably leaks straight back the other way after 180 degrees. Sealing the various con-rods is an inh...
by MikeB
Mon Sep 27, 2021 5:29 am
Forum: Stirling and "Hot Air" Engine Forum
Topic: I want to build a high efficiency Stirling electric generator
Replies: 23
Views: 11540

Re: I want to build a high efficiency Stirling electric generator

How was that 40% calculated / measured?

Most of us are used to _ slightly _ lower numbers than that...
by MikeB
Mon Sep 27, 2021 5:27 am
Forum: Stirling and "Hot Air" Engine Forum
Topic: Why are strokes are so much shorter than Stirling's?
Replies: 1
Views: 1826

Re: Why are strokes are so much shorter than Stirling's?

Pretty much everything is inter-dependant: materials; temperature difference; power; speed

Those numbers don't look very different to what I would expect for modern power-producing machines - LTD models are at the opposite end of the spectrum due to that pesky "Low" in the name.
by MikeB
Mon Sep 27, 2021 5:24 am
Forum: Stirling and "Hot Air" Engine Forum
Topic: Programmatic control of Stirling Engines
Replies: 30
Views: 18683

Re: Programmatic control of Stirling Engines

"It is well know that it takes TIME to transfer heat by conduction" Yes, that is one of the real-world compromises that we face - the longer we have for heat/energy transfer (in either direction) the more will transfer, but even at zero RPM the air on the inside will never reach the temper...
by MikeB
Mon Sep 20, 2021 4:26 am
Forum: Stirling and "Hot Air" Engine Forum
Topic: Programmatic control of Stirling Engines
Replies: 30
Views: 18683

Re: Programmatic control of Stirling Engines

The energy introduced as heat is "let out" as mechanical "work". This is what I was trying to get at with the wind-turbine analogy - you missed out the word "some" above - _some_ of the energy in the air inside the engine gets transferred to work done by moving the pis...
by MikeB
Fri Sep 17, 2021 7:23 am
Forum: Stirling and "Hot Air" Engine Forum
Topic: Programmatic control of Stirling Engines
Replies: 30
Views: 18683

Re: Programmatic control of Stirling Engines

I was once told that "All models are wrong, but some are still useful." The Carnot idea of heat as a fluid is a useful concept most of the time, but I don't think I've ever seen anyone suggest that it can be 'intercepted'. Similarly many of these conversations try to cover too much ground,...