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by Tom Booth
Sat Apr 13, 2024 1:44 am
Forum: Stirling and "Hot Air" Engine Forum
Topic: The TRUTH? η = 1 – (Qc / Qh) = 1 – (Tc / Th)
Replies: 298
Views: 11213

Re: The TRUTH? η = 1 – (Qc / Qh) = 1 – (Tc / Th)

. .... Furthermore, if a system performs work by expanding and the temperature drops, performing work on the system by compressing it will raise the temperature back for zero work out. If the pressure starts at 1 bar and the volume doubles the pressure will drop to 0.5 bar. So atmospheric pressure ...
by Tom Booth
Fri Apr 12, 2024 10:31 am
Forum: Stirling and "Hot Air" Engine Forum
Topic: The TRUTH? η = 1 – (Qc / Qh) = 1 – (Tc / Th)
Replies: 298
Views: 11213

Re: The TRUTH? η = 1 – (Qc / Qh) = 1 – (Tc / Th)

.... When describing these systems, it is the equation that matters. Experiments just shape the equations. Without the equations there is zero understanding. .... . That may be YOUR point of view, and your entitled to it, but Personally I think that's crazy Mathematics needs to be grounded in physi...
by Tom Booth
Fri Apr 12, 2024 8:42 am
Forum: Stirling and "Hot Air" Engine Forum
Topic: The TRUTH? η = 1 – (Qc / Qh) = 1 – (Tc / Th)
Replies: 298
Views: 11213

Re: The TRUTH? η = 1 – (Qc / Qh) = 1 – (Tc / Th)

... If the pressure starts at 1 bar and the volume doubles the pressure will drop to 0.5 bar. So atmospheric pressure will push the piston back until the pressure equalizes. At what volume will the pressure equalize? Right back where it started. Yes , but ... But nothing. "Work" has alrea...
by Tom Booth
Thu Apr 11, 2024 7:47 am
Forum: Stirling and "Hot Air" Engine Forum
Topic: The TRUTH? η = 1 – (Qc / Qh) = 1 – (Tc / Th)
Replies: 298
Views: 11213

Re: The TRUTH? η = 1 – (Qc / Qh) = 1 – (Tc / Th)

Internal energy remains the same because the heat input is immediately converted to work output, 100% so there is no added "heat"/energy left over to increase the "internal energy". That is only true in reference to zero Kelvin and Zero pressure. We are talking, so far about exp...
by Tom Booth
Wed Apr 10, 2024 8:00 pm
Forum: Stirling and "Hot Air" Engine Forum
Topic: The TRUTH? η = 1 – (Qc / Qh) = 1 – (Tc / Th)
Replies: 298
Views: 11213

Re: The TRUTH? η = 1 – (Qc / Qh) = 1 – (Tc / Th)

... I'd really rather use math logic and experimentation. ... Why don't you then. Try the ideal gas law for starters. If you expand a gas within a sealed Stirling engine isothermally, the temperature does not change, so the internal energy remains the same. The number of moles of gas is the same, s...
by Tom Booth
Wed Apr 10, 2024 1:44 pm
Forum: Stirling and "Hot Air" Engine Forum
Topic: The TRUTH? η = 1 – (Qc / Qh) = 1 – (Tc / Th)
Replies: 298
Views: 11213

Re: The TRUTH? η = 1 – (Qc / Qh) = 1 – (Tc / Th)

.... Or the 80% energy stored in the atmospheric "buffer" outside the engine compressing the working fluid on the return stroke is the same energy being expelled from the working fluid from inside the engine. Please leave 'buffer' and atmospheric pressure out of this discussion. I've alre...
by Tom Booth
Wed Apr 10, 2024 1:04 pm
Forum: Stirling and "Hot Air" Engine Forum
Topic: The TRUTH? η = 1 – (Qc / Qh) = 1 – (Tc / Th)
Replies: 298
Views: 11213

Re: The TRUTH? η = 1 – (Qc / Qh) = 1 – (Tc / Th)

The more heat converted to work on expansion, the LESS heat remaining in the working fluid to necessitate "back work" to compress the gas, which would only be hot and expanded due to supplied heat (heat supplied to and entering the working fluid) that had NOT been converted to work. Heat ...
by Tom Booth
Wed Apr 10, 2024 11:02 am
Forum: Stirling and "Hot Air" Engine Forum
Topic: The TRUTH? η = 1 – (Qc / Qh) = 1 – (Tc / Th)
Replies: 298
Views: 11213

Re: The TRUTH? η = 1 – (Qc / Qh) = 1 – (Tc / Th)

What if you convert 100% of the heat on expansion, and the theoretical Carnot limit is 20%? Would you have 80% to "make up"? I don't know what are saying? If you manage to get an engine to convert 100% of the input heat into work energy during the expansion, do not confuse this with attem...
by Tom Booth
Wed Apr 10, 2024 8:34 am
Forum: Stirling and "Hot Air" Engine Forum
Topic: The TRUTH? η = 1 – (Qc / Qh) = 1 – (Tc / Th)
Replies: 298
Views: 11213

Re: The TRUTH? η = 1 – (Qc / Qh) = 1 – (Tc / Th)

Or the 80% energy stored in the atmospheric "buffer" outside the engine compressing the working fluid on the return stroke is the same energy being expelled from the working fluid from inside the engine. Correct via energy vs "heat" buzz. Maybe you could expand on that little bl...
by Tom Booth
Tue Apr 09, 2024 5:10 pm
Forum: Stirling and "Hot Air" Engine Forum
Topic: The TRUTH? η = 1 – (Qc / Qh) = 1 – (Tc / Th)
Replies: 298
Views: 11213

Re: The TRUTH? η = 1 – (Qc / Qh) = 1 – (Tc / Th)

What if you convert 100% of the heat on expansion, and the theoretical Carnot limit is 20%? Would you have 80% to "make up"? I don't know what are saying? If you manage to get an engine to convert 100% of the input heat into work energy during the expansion, do not confuse this with attem...
by Tom Booth
Tue Apr 09, 2024 4:46 pm
Forum: Stirling and "Hot Air" Engine Forum
Topic: The TRUTH? η = 1 – (Qc / Qh) = 1 – (Tc / Th)
Replies: 298
Views: 11213

Re: The TRUTH? η = 1 – (Qc / Qh) = 1 – (Tc / Th)

What if you convert 100% of the heat on expansion, and the theoretical Carnot limit is 20%? Would you have 80% to "make up"? I don't know what are saying? If you manage to get an engine to convert 100% of the input heat into work energy during the expansion, do not confuse this with attem...
by Tom Booth
Tue Apr 09, 2024 4:32 pm
Forum: Stirling and "Hot Air" Engine Forum
Topic: Absurdly simple thermoacoustic-steam "rice" engine – What's going on here?
Replies: 136
Views: 37876

Re: Absurdly simple thermoacoustic-steam "rice" engine – What's going on here?

Waldschrat wrote: Tue Apr 09, 2024 3:06 am seramis? instead of rice
That would be worth a try if it hasn't been tried already. Many different things have been found to work so far that I know of. Glass beads, copper BB's, aquarium gravel... Not sure what all else.
by Tom Booth
Tue Apr 09, 2024 6:31 am
Forum: Stirling and "Hot Air" Engine Forum
Topic: The TRUTH? η = 1 – (Qc / Qh) = 1 – (Tc / Th)
Replies: 298
Views: 11213

Re: The TRUTH? η = 1 – (Qc / Qh) = 1 – (Tc / Th)

.... The second law of thermodynamics only applies to full cycles. Single strokes can be more efficient or less, often way less. Especially for the compression stroke. ... Well, "can be more efficient" is good enough I think. What the "Carnot Limit" claims is a hard limit impose...
by Tom Booth
Mon Apr 08, 2024 5:48 pm
Forum: Stirling and "Hot Air" Engine Forum
Topic: The TRUTH? η = 1 – (Qc / Qh) = 1 – (Tc / Th)
Replies: 298
Views: 11213

Re: The TRUTH? η = 1 – (Qc / Qh) = 1 – (Tc / Th)

The theory or claim I keep hearing and reading is that it is not a thermodynamic process where heat cannot be transformed into work 100% but a CYCLICAL process. It IS possible to transform all the heat into work during expansion but heat has to be rejected during compression. Is this correct, or doe...
by Tom Booth
Mon Apr 08, 2024 10:05 am
Forum: Stirling and "Hot Air" Engine Forum
Topic: Shane Pomeroy engine
Replies: 16
Views: 1877

Re: Shane Pomeroy engine

Totally different linkages for the Essex ... Maybe off topic here, but since the video of the Essex was posted here, it provides a good view of the "negative dead space" as both power piston and displacer piston move to the left together during heating/compression. I slowed down the video...